Alyssa A. Lappen: Is it ironic? You were
relieved
of your military command during a Republican presidency, yet you’re
running for Congress as a Republican?
Lt. Col. (ret.) Allen West: No. I don’t see
irony. What happened had nothing to do with politics. My running on a
Republican ticket is basically due to my conservative politics, and in
line with what should be the Republican policy platform.
AAL: Would it have been the same under any
administration.
West: I don’t think the administration had
anything to do with the decision of my field commander or the advocate
general advising him. It was very helpful to have members of Congress
and the Senate to read out a resolution in support of me and my
actions. I stand by what I did. It was based on my men on the ground,
not political ramifications or anything like that.
AAL: What was the exact circumstance of this
guy
who was attempting to assassinate you.
West: He was was an Iraqi policeman. We had
human
intelligence saying he was leaking information to the enemy. We had
seen an up-tick in ambushes and such things. The word on the street
was, I was an enemy target. We were very successful and I was a visible
and effective commander.
AAL: If elected, what might you change to
affect
future commanders facing the same situation?
West: Having been a person on this 21st century
battlefield, from Desert Storm, Iraq and also Afghanistan, I bring a
wealth of knowledge from the tactical level that can help us shape our
strategic level decisions. I would seek to be on the House armed
services committee.
We need to look at current rules of engagement. Are they
stymieing
the efforts of our men and women on the battlefield. Are they hindering
our initiative against this enemy. We should look at things happening
with the defense budget. For example, I am really upset about how we
continue to put all these non related amendments on defense
appropriation bills. We need to clean that up.
Also, how do we move ahead to taper our force to combat this
enemy
— a non-state, non-uniformed belligerent on the battlefield. And pay
attention to future threats. China continues to build what may be the
largest naval force that we will ever know.
AAL: What other principles come from the
military?
West: We seek to make a difference. I’m not
from
a political family or background. We have to re-establish the fact that
any American can be a part of the process. In running for office, they
have a shot at getting to Congress, and doing the business of being a
citizen legislator. Our political system can accommodate people from
every walk of life. Let Americans try to guide this thing in the right
way.
People need to show it can be done. In 2008, we proved that
someone resolute and focused, with a principled message, can get
attention. We got 48% of the vote in the 22nd Congressional District of
Florida.
This is huge. The key is for people to see, this has to be done.
Plato said, those who refuse to engage in politics will be governed by
their inferiors.
AAL: An organization was started in Texas by
Tim
Cox, a former process manager at Dell Computers. He’s just fed up with
Congress. Probably most Americans are.
West: Now wait. It’s interesting…. Every cycle,
people say they’re fed up with Congress. Last year, Congress had what
then was one of the lowest approval ratings, maybe 20% or 21%. Yet 93%
of incumbents were reelected. So people continue to say that. I hope
finally the American people will stand up and bring those words to
fruition. But let’s face it there are districts where Representatives
will not be voted out. Folks are very happy with the person they have.
It’ll be interesting to see if people go back, with the courage to say,
Congress is terrible, but our Congressman is okay.
AAL: One difficulty is beating incumbents. You
have all this gerrymandering. Your home district is a good example — a
long skinny north-south stretch through Florida, cutting out big
sections of key towns through which it runs. And the House of
Representatives maps such districts to protect incumbents.
West: It is very hard to get rid of them. You
need a strategic perspective. If Americans want to take the gavel out
of Nancy Pelosi’s hand, they have to look across the country and find
40 to 55 seats, maybe even 60, where you can be competitive and make a
difference. Congressional District 22 is one of those. And for whatever
reason, my district has gotten a lot of national attention.
AAL: Will incumbent Ron Klein run again?
West: Yes, absolutely. I don’t think he
expected
me to run again… he felt I was a one trick pony. When I was not
successful he figured I’d go away. But I am committed to this country,
and committed to continuing service to the people. People now know what
I stand for. The name recognition has improved. The national level
attention, for whatever reason, is humbling. But I think Klein is now
in a very tough situation, running against someone like myself, who
isn’t a career politician.
AAL: No doubt you’ll get lots of support.
West: And if in two years, West turns out to,
you
know, suck, then get me out of there. I am [a] guy [who] would
understand that. That’s what I tell folks. You are sending me up there
to prove myself as a capable legislator, statesman and political
leader. If I fail and let you down, … just don’t support me. Just vote
me out. That is what we have to do.
AAL: You’ve spoken about the love your parents
instilled in you for God, country and self-sufficiency. What are those
principles, and why do you hold them so high?
West: It is important to honor our
Judeao-Christian faith tradition — and notice I said faith tradition, I
did not say state-sponsored religion. People get very confused about
that. You can go back to the founding fathers and see that connection.
I had faith and believe in something greater than myself. It comes back
around understanding this great country and service to something
greater than yourself. My dad served in WWII. My mother did 25 years of
civilian service with the Marine Corps. My older brother served in
Vietnam, and now young nephew is a U.S. Army Captain, following in my
footsteps. I think that’s very important. It’s about giving back, about
a great country affording you the opportunities to get out and, as the
Army once said, be all you can be. It’s about your own internal
individual responsibility and accountability, your own internal drive
and desire… to be part of what and who we are in this country. That’s
why people come to America. They see the opportunities here.
It’s just a shame that government creates victims, and victims
become dependent. Government continues to grow because of this
dependent entitlement class. That’s not what my parents raised me to
believe. Never see anything as an obstacle. Never looked at the color
of my skin as a crutch. Always know the standards. Understand them.
Work not just to achieve them, but to exceed the standards. Those are
driving factors in my life, which I learned from parents who taught me
faith, love of country, individual responsibility and accountability.
AAL: Your parents died young.
West: My Dad was 66 when he passed from a
massive
stroke. My mother was 63 when she died of liver cancer. I miss them
very much, but each and every day that I go forth, I carry them with
me.
AAL: Why was your father, Herman West Sr. from
Ozark, Alabama, called Buck.
West: Well, it was the strength he exuded. As I
said at CPAC, the
most important thing was how I ended up on that stage to speak. It
traced right back to their dreams, my father, my mother, what they
wanted me to be in life.
AAL: I think [your parents] Buck and Elizabeth
West would be very proud of you if they were here today.
West: Well, thank you.
AAL: Parenting definitely is important.
West: It is, and one of the problems you have
in
America is the breakdown of family, especially in the black community.
Even Daniel Patrick Moynihan talked about how a lot of these liberal
social welfare programs, if you started to pull the man out of the
house and to break down the family in the black community, it is not
going to be a positive thing. And we see that. In the black community
now, you only have 30 to 35% of children being raised in two parent
households. That’s appalling.
AAL: Well, yes. And I do not think it’s just
in
the black community, either. It is all over the place.
West: Yes, it has expanded. It really targeted
the inner city black community and now it has expanded. And you cannot
have a strong country without strong families. We do not want to see
America be reflected in Detroit, Michigan or even in California.
AAL: Let’s discuss Tim Cox’ GOOOH
(Get Out of Our House http://goooh.com/)
organization.
Do you know about it?
West: Yeah, absolutely. I visited their
website.
He did an interview with South Florida’s WFTL Talk Show host Joyce
Kaufman and I had an
opportunity to listen. I think it is a good citizen-based initiative.
So I applaud Mr. Cox.
But you already have that system built in. Americans have never
really understood, never really participated in this process, and never
sat down and evaluated candidates and scrutinized them one on one. Not
like we are starting to see now.
The great thing is: The founding fathers set up our system with
powers in the House of Representatives to make them the most powerful
branch. So every two years, you get to do something about it. It’s just
a matter of Americans educating themselves about the Constitution and
understanding, you can change this legislative body every two years.
Come out and hold people’s feet to the fire.
Will the American people follow through on what they’re saying.
Will their respective grass roots organizations follow through. I think
when you talk about Constitutional fundamentals and principles that
make this country great, Americans will rally, and come to support you.
AAL: In current politics, have you read the
revised House health care measure? What are your key concerns?
West: I have not read the entire revised
measure.
I’ve looked at certain pieces. The biggest thing: this is not about
focusing on the health care problem in America. And we do have a
problem. That is with lowering the costs. If you look at the system
that makes costs too high, it drives you to some specific solutions to
fix the problem. It’s not about creating 110 more government agencies.
It’s not about expanding government health care supervision, or trying
to take over one sixth of our gross national production.
This directly affects us in Florida. It’s about catastrophic
litigation. Doctors charge more because they are afraid. So tort reform
is a first start. It’s about state insurance agencies and commissions,
state by state, that have created monopolies all over the place. The
one thing that drives down costs in a free market society is
competition.
And it’s not about introducing government into this aspect of
competition. Government can run itself in the red [at a loss]. If it
wants to produce more capital, government just prints money or borrows
money or raise taxes. That would be unfair competition.
It’s about putting Americans in charge of their choices. Now,
the
insurance companies cannot go jacking up rates because you’d have
another company to buy insurance. That is the great thing about our
system. If people see the need, they’ll come into this market and meet
the needs of consumers and American citizens [and profit].
Another thing no one talks about is the effect of illegal
immigration on health care costs. Down in Miami Dade, we have Jackson
Memorial about to go under because of the rising [costs and expenses]
from illegal immigrants. North of us in Martin County you see the same
thing.
Health savings accounts are something that no one talks about.
Everyone keeps throwing around [numbers]: 30 million, 45 million, 47
million [without insurance]. But it’s really a targeted group of maybe
9 to 10 million citizens that need affordable health insurance. Give
them the tax credit.
We have got to transfer the wealth from Washington D.C. back
down
to the people so they can take care of their [own] lives and their life
styles. It’s a lie that increasing taxes increases revenues. At this
time, I do not think we need to be creating programs to raise taxes on
the American people.
AAL: I could not agree more. Having government
control health care would be an unmitigated disaster.
West: The country is upside down. USA ran a
side
by side comparison of public sector and private sector compensation a
few weeks ago. At this point, public sector compensations exceed
private sector compensations. Here in Broward County, we have city
managers making more than the governor.
You cannot have 20% of federal government employees earning 6
figure incomes. You can’t continue down the road where government
continues to grow. Look, they run the finance industry, they have taken
over the automobile industry. They are going after health care. If Cap
and Trade were to go through, they’d control the energy sector. It just
squashes out the innovation and ingenuity that comes from the private
sector.
This is not efficient. Look at the four standing government
medical programs — Medicaid, Medicare, the SCHIP and the Veterans’
Administration. None of those four programs runs effectively or
efficiently.
AAL: What’s SCHIP?
West: The State Children’s Health Insurance
Program was started in 1997 to cover children at or below the poverty
level. A lot of people didn’t notice last January, one of the first
things the Nancy Pelosi crew did. It was signed by President Obama.
They raised the age of children covered under SCHIP from 18 to 25, and the
poverty level from $32,000 to $83,000
for
a family of four.
AAL: $83,000? Oh goodness, we’re poor! (Laughs)
That’s unbelievable.
West: Absolutely. So now you are paying free
health care for children who are up to 25 years of age, in a household
of four with $83,000 income. They are creeping their way to getting
what they want. And SCHIP is a huge misnomer; it’s a federal program.
AAL: Assuming health care does pass, can it be
repealed by the next Congress? What would that take?
West: The biggest thing. You cannot repeal it
as
long as Nancy Pelosi is in charge of Congress. So in November 2010,
you’d need 40 to 50 seats to flip so she does not have the gavel. She
is no longer Speaker of the House of Representatives. Even more, you
probably need to flip it so at least a 2/3 majority in the House sit on
the other side. Then you can override any presidential veto. Americans
need to strategically think about those key things if they want to
reverse that, and some other dangerous pieces of legislation passed in
the first couple of Obama Administration years.
AAL: Such as.
West: Some of the spending. We have to get that
under control. [We also] have to challenge and get rid of the czar
stuff. This is not just from the Obama administration. It went on
previously. But it has been exacerbated to epic proportions. Once
again, it’s just expansive growth of government, and that’s not
constitutional, having people make public policy, who aren’t
accountable to the people. We need to peel the onion back on all that.
We need the checks and balances that the founding fathers established.
AAL: What about the effects of global jihad in
the U.S. What concerns you most about domestic policies on this issue?
West: We have become so politically correct and
so hung on multiculturalism, that our tolerance has become a one way
street leading to cultural suicide. As you evaluate
jihad, Islam, or whatever. It’s not about Muslims, not about
individuals. It’s about an ideology. We need to study the history, from
the 7th century, from Islam’s inception and after. How was it
promulgated and disseminated across the world from the 7th century
until today. We see that it’s not so much a religion, but more of a
totalitarian, theocratic, political ideology.
We need leaders in Washington D.C. with courage and confidence
to
stand and say so. So that we are not allowing ourselves to be
infiltrated in cultural, educational, political and economic operating
systems by something really antithetical to our Constitutional
republic. As long as we continue letting people use our freedom to
preach against what we are in America and indeed Western civilization —
you can look to Europe and see what’s going on — we are hanging
ourselves. We have to challenge this ideology, their belief system, to
show us that they can be compatible with democracy and freedom, with
our principles of individual rights and freedom.
AAL: Yes, but how can you control it. People
see
Islam as a religion, a faith, and the first amendment allows freedom of
religion.
West: It’s what I said. There will come a point
where we cannot see it as religion. This enemy’s reality will have to
become our own. It’s a sad truth. I want to coexist with all people.
But when you look at it, we are accommodating an ideology that does not
accommodate us. How many churches and synagogues are there in Saudi
Arabia? A “quote, unquote” infidel cannot go to Mecca. Yet anyone can
visit the Vatican. Anyone can go into a church here in the United
States. Just yesterday I went to a Jewish temple and spoke to Jewish
War Veterans. There’s something inherently wrong, that a lot of people
don’t want to admit, they don’t want to face.
It requires leadership. Leadership has five components. Courage,
competence, commitment, conviction and character. You need the type of
people in Washington D.C. willing to stand up and say these things. You
may not like what I just said, but it is all true.
AAL: You’re preaching to the choir. I’ve been
writing on this since 2000 or 2001.
West: Muamar Ghadaffi last summer said
something
a lot of people missed. He said Islam
will
overtake Europe without firing a shot.
They’ll
do it by migration and an explosive birth rate. In in a
democratic society, the next thing you know, they’ll win by sheer
numbers. Then they’ll start to impact domestic policies and programs.
AAL: So does the U.S. limit immigration or ban
new mosque construction?
West: No, you challenge the ideology to show
that
it’s compatible. And if it’s not compatible, then you stem the
infiltration. What I’m talking about has nothing to do with Muslims.
I’ve been in that part of the world for some time, and helped three of
my Afghani interpreters get green cards. But they had to prove to me
that they understood the Constitution of the United States and what it
meant to be a free people. That’s the onus we have to place on Islam
and the Muslim community.
AAL: But even that is tricky because of the taqiyya
doctrine. That commands Muslims to be good
liars to advance Islam. While it’s horrible to generalize, the ideology
allows and encourages such lying.
West: That’s why we have to force a
reformation.
It’s the same as Judaism, the same as Martin Luther in 1517. We went
through a Reformation. The same needs to happen in Islam. After 622
A.D., after Mohammed’s Hijra
(migration to Medina), everything became very violent. Until Muslims
reject that, and [reinstate] all the abrogated verses from the first
12-year peaceful verses. We absolutely have to pressure them to make
that happen. I am not going to let someone lie to me and say this is a
religion of peace. History shows that it is not.
AAL: You are the first person I’ve heard even contending
for political office to say anything like this, never mind those
already in office. And what is the reaction in the field?
West: People do listen. You only have to tune
into the news and see exactly what’s happening. I’m not sitting by
myself and preaching some heresy. I’m talking about fact, talking about
history and current events. Let’s face it. Jihad
Jamie. Jihad
Jane. Look at Buffalo NY. You have a guy on trial for beheading
his
wife because she wanted a divorce. In Arizona, a guy ran
over
his daughters because they were becoming too western. Look at
all these things. Fort
Hood,
Texas. The U.S. soldiers who were shot at a Little Rock recruiting
station. We have a serious problem we have to deal with. We can’t
continue putting our heads in the sand and saying these very trite
terms like “moderate Islam” or “peace loving Muslims” because we don’t
want to confront it. So we have got to challenge them.
AAL: How does the president get away with it.
West: It’s very easy. He’s the president. But
people are challenging him because he’s not dealing with this situation
forthrightly. Look at his address at the Turkish
National
Assembly. Look at his address in Cairo,
which
was just replete with lies and platitudes not based upon fact. It
was appeasement.
AAL: I lost a friend over that speech.
West: Understand. There are going to be 30 to
35%
of Americans who are not comfortable dealing with this. But the
majority of Americas want leaders willing to stand up and speak the
truth. They really do.
AAL: How do you arrive at that percentage?
West: You have a third of folks ideologically
very much at that far left extreme. There’s an unholy alliance between
liberal progressives and this radical Islamic enemy. I don’t understand
it. But it is what it is. But 65 to 70 % of Americans are composed of
the center right. And 65% to 70% of Americans understand the basic set
of principles of limited government, security from external and
internal threats, individual responsibility and accountability,
liberty, free market solutions, leadership based on merit (not
entitlement) and traditional values — our borders, our culture, our
language, protecting the unborn and also the sanctity of marriage.
AAL: How would you control these assaults, if
elected. How do convince peers in both parties, and frankly there are
many problematic Republicans too.
West: Look at Lindsey Graham who’s signing onto
an amnesty
bill. It comes down to leadership — and challenging people. You
need an open forum and debate to throw light upon these issues. If
legislators are serious about their oath to support and defend the
Constitution, they have to do what is right for the American people.
Now is a critical time.
Americans are going back to what we said …. They’re starting to
hold legislators’ feet to the fire; they’re looking for principled
leaders, who aren’t self-serving or beholden to special interests or
afraid to tackle hard issues. I’d have to sit down with fellow
Republicans and educate them on the threats out there. They need to do
what’s right and protect the American people.
AAL: Tim Cox‘
group
wants a law specifying that each new statute can address only one
issue. That is, the House and Senate must limit new measures to one law
on one issue. That’s it.
West: Absolutely. That’s it. We need people who
understand the five basic mandates of the federal government: To
establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, promote general
welfare, provide for the common defense and secure the blessings of
liberty. Also, the House of Representatives operates within the
mandates of Article One
of the Constitution. If we could get those people, then we’re going to
be fine.
It’s not the government’s right or responsibility to start
mandating to Americans that they must buy health insurance. That’s a
prime example of a government gone totally awry. We have got to get
people up there who understand that what’s best for Americans is that
they have liberty, to pursue happiness. We need people who set the
conditions for the success of the American people, NOT people who try
to engineer results and design the outcomes. It’s about making sure
that Americans have opportunities for their life, for their liberties
and for their pursuit of happiness. It’s about getting back to
fundamentals.
Honor, integrity and character need to be reestablished in our
country’s leadership, and you can do that with people who focus on
what’s best for the country and not what’s best for themselves.
AAL: A great many people nationwide pin a lot
of
hope on you (not to use an overused word), to reform government, and
rekindle basic American principles in Washington D.C. Assuming you win,
you’d be a junior congressman. What can supporters realistically expect?
West: They can expect me to go and give that
age-old adage — 110%. There’s not a day when I don’t lay my head down
without realizing the responsibility upon me — that a lot of people pin
a lot of hope on me to turn things around.
I go back to Harry Truman, and what he was able to do. Here was
a
guy who had not been very successful. He was a haberdasher. Yet he took
on the defense industry. And he got recognized. A person who stands
resolute can make a difference. People rally around him. That is what
you focus on. Not the special interests or the PACs or anything like
that.
You focus on who sent you and what they’re looking for. The
bigger
thing: I will continue to pray for God to strengthen me; I will put
together a top notch team to look at all the critical issues. It’s that
important to me. I’m not saying I’ll hit a home run every time. But
every time I’m at bat, I’ll seek to get on base. I am not going to let
people down. And I am not going to be relegated to some back bench, to
sit in a corner and just work on being reelected. That’s not why I am
going to Washington D.C.
Understand the kind of people I am and the stubbornness that —
if
my mother and father were alive, they would tell you about. People say,
you gotta compromise and work with people. But I am not going to
compromise my principles. When you start to do that, you start on the
road to perdition. I will always stand for my principles. I will always
stand on the beliefs in what made this country great, from the
Declaration, to the Constitution and all the great thinkers and the
worries of our founding fathers and framers. That’s the bedrock upon
which we stand.
And I am absolutely humbled at the response we’re getting across
the nation and beyond. Last week, we were sent a Dutch Conservative
blog that featured me on the front page.
AAL: That’s not surprising. You support freedom
of speech and Dutch parliamentarian Geert
Wilders, charged with hate speech in his own country merely for
filming and translating passages chanted from the Koran, by Muslims.
Some supposedly
conservative Americans deride him as a fascist. You, on the other
hand, understand he’s fighting for Western civilization itself.
Naturally, Dutchmen respect that.
West: It comes back to honor, integrity and
character. They need to be reestablished in the our nation’s
leadership. You can do that if you get people to focus on what’s best
for the country and not what’s best for themselves. For me, the honor
and integrity are the payoff.
There is nothing fancy about me.
It can be taken away any day. That’s what keeps you humble. When
you’re in a combat zone, and have a successful firefight and survive
that day — you have to go back out the next day too. That keeps you
humble. Each and every day is a new fight. What I have done today will
not matter tomorrow. You have to stay humble and on focus.
But more than that, it’s how you were raised, those intrinsic
characteristics that your parents gave you.
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